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My first 3 day water fast

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04 Apr 2011 05:13 #6532 by Tonyd
Tonyd created the topic: My first 3 day water fast
I am approaching the 24 hour mark on my first 3 day water fast.

I have a few questions that hopefully someone can help me with.

In regards to bowel movements, should I be taking something to help them along. ie water enemas (as I understand some people do while water fasting)

Is it okay to be taking vitamin supplements while fasting? Or does this defeat the purpose of the fast?

I understand that light exercise is permissible during a fast...yoga? light jogs?

I am accustomed to running 2-3 miles daily, and hope that perhaps I can still be somewhat active during the next 2 days of the fast.

Any information is appreciated.

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04 Apr 2011 05:49 #6533 by Milena
Milena replied the topic: Re: My first 3 day water fast
Bowel movements -- 3 days is a very short period of time and you should still be able to have natural bowel movement provided you are regular on your non fasting days. I am on my 25th day of combined fast with the first 9 days being dry fast (no water and no food) and I did not start using enema until about day 12.

If you start taking supplements you will no longer fast.

You can exercise as long as you feel good and don't get light headed.

I hope this is helpful.

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04 Apr 2011 16:55 #6536 by cory
cory replied the topic: Re: My first 3 day water fast
Normally the fast doctor doesn't recommend doing taking an enemas, I know empress2k and a few others do but most people don't.

While fasting your body get's all it nutrients from your fat reserves, this is why you don't need anything extra added. Like empress2k said you don't need them.

For exercise as long as you have the energy to do them do it (not held back through detox symptoms), this can be light or intense depending on how your body feels. I carried on working out my usually exercises for two weeks into my fast until the detox effects started slowing me down.

In your exercise you will also burn a lot more fat than you normally do as your running completely on fat.
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04 Apr 2011 19:06 #6537 by Milena
Milena replied the topic: Re: My first 3 day water fast
According to the Russian fasting system daily enemas are advisable, so I follow that system. But I buy small saline disposable ones, so not too much liquid goes in. In addition, since I haven't eaten for 26 days now, I want to make sure that my body remembers what it's like to have a bowle movement and to exercise my intestines with mild contructions stimulated by saline.

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04 Apr 2011 19:26 #6539 by cory
cory replied the topic: Re: My first 3 day water fast
I just said the fast doctor on this site doesn't recommend them as he said in a previous topic;

"I am however quite sure that enemas are NOT beneficial. These are quite unnatural and the only possible reason to do them would be impacted obstruction in the rectum. They tend to upset the electrolyte balance which is fine-tuned in the last part of the gut."

and

"I don't advise enemas unless the gut is "bunged up". It disrupts the mineral content of your body: The colon is a very delicate POLARIZED organ that moves from top to bottom, don't go against the traffic in a one way street!"


Personally I have never taken one, but people do have contradicting views on them.

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04 Apr 2011 19:56 #6541 by TheFastDoctor
TheFastDoctor replied the topic: Re: My first 3 day water fast
Thank you Cory and Empress for your much appreciated and valuable responses. To retierate: On the odd occasion where colon cleansing is necessary during a fast, we like to make sure that by the time the cleansing liquid reaches the rectum, it is in perfect balance with the body. To achieve this, we recommend and use a non absorbable oral liquid like a macro-glycol solution that will pass through (and flush) the entire intestine, not just the very last bit.. and all the time move in the right direction. This is physicologically equivalent to a bit of diarrhea, something we on occasion see happening in fasting people that really need a "flush".

Thank you also for pointing out about "vitamins".. I firmly believe these chemicals are marketed simply because they are easy to market and makes their manufacturerers a lot of money. Bear in mind that they represent only a handful of the almost 300 different nutrients we need to remain healthy. And yes Cory, they form part of the eating metabolism (anabolism).

Concerning exercise: You can actually do a bit more when you fast, as you don't waste energy on processing food. Most animals are more active duirng famin, trying to find food.. so it's part of our physiology also. But do try to integrate your exercise into the elimination cycles of activity to maximize the benefits.

André

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04 Apr 2011 21:24 #6544 by Tonyd
Tonyd replied the topic: Is extending the fast by an additional 12 hours okay?
Thank you all for the information, it is greatly appreciated.

Day 2 is going just fine. No perceptable loss of energy, only a slight headache.

Another question.

As I understand it, a 3 day fast is actually done over a 72 hour period. Is it permissible to go past the 72 hours to 84 hours?

The reason is I began the fast Saturday evening at 8 pm. So technically should break it on Tuesday evening 8 pm.

I have issue with eating past 7pm in the evening, and would like to continue the fast to the next morning 8am.

Would this be acceptable?

Apologies for the layman questions...this being my first true water fast and all.

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04 Apr 2011 21:31 #6545 by Milena
Milena replied the topic: Re: Is extending the fast by an additional 12 hours okay?
There is absolutely no reason why you should not be able to extend, as long as you feel well and all is going well. My 9 day dry fast turned into a 40-day combined fast.

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04 Apr 2011 23:13 #6546 by Mrs. L
Mrs. L replied the topic: Re: Is extending the fast by an additional 12 hours okay?

Tonyd wrote: I have issue with eating past 7pm in the evening, and would like to continue the fast to the next morning 8am.

Yep! I know what you mean. Getting a little bit happy on those late night weekend snacking into a wee hours of the night? I do those a lot on Sundays, knowing for sure I go cold turkey the next couple of days. Intermittent fasting scores a big plus on that it really sniffed out that gilt feeling for enjoying my favorites not so healthy goodies.

Good Luck!
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06 Apr 2011 00:06 #6553 by Tonyd
Tonyd replied the topic: Breaking the fast tomorrow! Need some advice on foods to eat.
Thank you all again for the ongoing help and advice.

I have one final topic that I could use some assistance with.

Today is day 3 of my fast, and I will be breaking it tomorrow morning.

I've read a lot of conflicting advice on what to eat after the fast.

I believe the general consensus is 1 day of recovery per day of fasting.

I'm thinking about eating non-acidic fruits for day 1, vegetables (raw and steamed) day 2, and some light carbs and fish on day 3.

Would this be an okay regiment to get my stomach back into the swing of things?

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

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06 Apr 2011 00:22 #6555 by cory
cory replied the topic: Re: Breaking the fast tomorrow! Need some advice on foods to eat.
What you said sounds quite good, you might even need less time to break the fast if you want.

Some people recommend 1 day for every 4 days and some even 1 day for every week.

But if you break your fast slow it wouldn't do you any harm, and will prevent any unnecessary weight gain.

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06 Apr 2011 00:30 #6556 by Milena
Milena replied the topic: Re: Breaking the fast tomorrow! Need some advice on foods to eat.
3 days is a very short fast and you plan to come out of it sounds very reasonable.

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06 Apr 2011 04:47 #6559 by TheFastDoctor
TheFastDoctor replied the topic: Re: Breaking the fast tomorrow! Need some advice on foods to eat.
I agree with Cory, although as a vegetarian I will not chew dead fish. The rate of breaking a fast can vary quite a lot, dpending on your physiological state and activities.

Theory should always take second place after biofeedback. One way of determining the end of a fast is when you receive feedback that is
* Persistent
* for ONE, NATURAL food
* NOT due to external cues such as seeing or smelling that food. This indicates that your body has completed an internal "audit" and now knows what you need.

Due to the "civlized" habit of always eating a mixture of foods and eating before biofeedback tells us to, however, has all but ruined most people's abilities to communicate with the body in this way. Thus in most cases a fast just need to be broken in the safest way which would be fruit, followed by vegetables, then starches.. and introduce proteins only once you are anabolic so that the proteins are not immedicately broken down.

André

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11 Dec 2011 01:12 #9491 by KMS
KMS replied the topic: Re: My first 3 day water fast
I've done juice fast before with success, but this was my first 3-day water fast. I tried to prepare ahead of time by eating lightly and taking dry saunas at the gym to help detox. I have to say my first 48 hours were very difficult. I was very hungry which surprised me a little because I tend to eat very small meals throughout the day. I didn't have any other prominent symptoms, just slight headache and bad taste in my mouth.

Day 3, which I am currently in, is going much better. I think they key for most people is to get through the 2 day-hump before it alleviates. I'm now thinking I'll break the fast with juice, and continue juicing for another week or so.

I will say that while I have had a headache and been a bit tired, my mental clarity is heightened. Good luck to all other first time 3-day'ers.

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11 Dec 2011 10:41 #9496 by TheFastDoctor
TheFastDoctor replied the topic: Re: My first 3 day water fast
Hi KMS, what you describe here is very typical. This is of course your first fast (although you have been on fruit/juice DIETS before), so your body would typically take about 3 days to "learn" how to use fat instead of food for energy. The "second day hump" is universally appreciated.

Juice is indeed a good way of breaking a fast. But once you are past day 3 it is easy to extend a fast as you have then "invested" in the fasting metabolism and can get maximal benefit. Just make sure that you also eliminate the toxins that are released during the fast (we refer to "active fasting") and that you consider keeping the fasting metabolism (catabolism) active by fasting at least one day (30 hours plus) per week..

Best wishes

André

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