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24 Oct 2012 10:28 #13295 by Clara
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I have failed at several attempts of water fasting so I will try juice fasting first. Take a step back.

I will update how I feel an on the wight loss only at the end. I have developed a terrible relationship with food but I know I know this will help me clasp control of my life again.

Anyone who wants to join me feel free and welcome opinions from anyone xxx

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24 Oct 2012 12:03 #13296 by Shant
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as a prep for water fast, try green vegetable juices and avoid fruit juices as they might make your appetite/hunger go absolutely bonkers and are basically a liquid form of fructose without the additional fibre anyway. I'd also recommend home made nut milks in the evening to activate the right enzymes in case your daily calorie intake from juice is low. it will help to spare your lean mass. I did this in spring and found it as a good strategy to get used to pure wf. happy fasting!
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24 Oct 2012 15:22 - 08 Nov 2012 00:09 #13299 by Chelsea Girl
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Hi Clara! Shant is absolutely right, avoid fruit juices. Many people start their day off with a glass of orange juice, typically thinking the vitamin C and other nutrients it contains are a smart and healthy choice. But a glass of juice, whether fresh-squeezed or not, has about eight full teaspoons of sugar per 250ml glass! When the sugar is combined in its natural form in the whole fruit it causes far less of a problem as the fiber tends to slow its absorption and prevents over consumption. But process the fruit sugar out of the fruit and remove the fiber and you have an entirely different setup. The sugar in fruit juice is called fructose, which many mistakenly believe is a “healthy” form of sugar. But fructose is every bit as dangerous as regular table sugar since it will also cause a major increase in your insulin levels.

Fruit fructose, along with all the nutrients, vitamins, minerals, water, other mono-, di- and olgio-saccharides and fiber found in fruit, are converted to blood glucose.This does not mean it is “healthy,” because it will cause a major spike in your insulin levels. This is important because elevated insulin levels are one of the primary drivers for high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and weight gain.This may be why drinking fruit juice has been linked to an increased risk of diabetes, while fructose itself has been shown to increase your triglyceride levels. In one previous study, eating fructose raised triglyceride levels by 32 percent in men. Triglycerides, the chemical form of fat found in foods and in your body, are not something you want in excess amounts. Forty years worth of research has confirmed that elevated blood levels of triglycerides, known as hypertriglyceridemia, puts you at an increased risk of heart disease.

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24 Oct 2012 15:43 #13301 by david
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Hi Clara here are a few articles on juice Fasting better known as juice feasting.

www.fastingconnection.com/articles-on-fasting/143-juice-fasting

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24 Oct 2012 16:43 #13302 by Clara
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Thank you very much all very helpful. I will keep you posted.

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26 Oct 2012 01:27 - 26 Oct 2012 01:29 #13315 by whimsofthewinds
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hey Clara, years ago I wanted to fast and I couldn't do a water fast for any amount of time. I know that many people recommend against juice fasts but my first really long fast was a juice fast. Back then starting off with a juice fast was a great way for me personally to get off of solid foods. If you limit your juice to a certain amount you will lose weight. Now as far as the fruit juices I found beneficial and non beneficial. The beneficial were pure juices that you juice yourself especially apple, beets, celery when I stuck with those three juices using the apple for a bit of sweetness I found that I was able to lose the most amount of weight and taper off of my fruit juice into a water fast. I also used distilled water to dilute it. Some people don't recommend distilled but personally I prefer it. I have found that on any fast if I drank any water from any tap source that had fluoride or chlorine in it I get very bad heartburn and indigestion, don't know which one causes it but I stay away from both. The bad juices I've found were any citrus, citrus juices like oranges can make you gain weight and increase your appetite I've found, lemons, grapefruits, limes tend to give me heartburn as well on an extended fast. Also any juice you buy from the store that is from concentrate or that has absolutely any fructose corn syrup or sugar added is a big no no, it can have a blow up effect in weight. A good juicer is not that expensive and is good too keep around, for every fifty dollars you don't spend on health you could end up spending a few hundred at the doctors anyways. Herbal teas are also great, I especially like ones with licorice in them and while on a juice diet only use stevia to sweeten, pure stevia only. Juices are a great way to start for many people, also don't get sucked into the master cleanse diets and stuff because they have WAY too much sugar in them and I've know many people too have tried them and very very few to have had the discipline to lose any weight on them. This is only my opinions from my experiences and it may help you some but by no means is what I said an expert opinion of course.......

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26 Oct 2012 12:52 #13332 by Ockeghem
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Whimsofthewinds,

Hmmm. Herbal teas with licorice in them? I've not heard of this variety before. I'll have to check it out. :)

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26 Oct 2012 13:22 #13335 by happydays
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Hi Ock, I use this kind of tea to lift my blood pressure when it drops too low during a fast.

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26 Oct 2012 13:29 #13338 by Ockeghem
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happydays wrote: Hi Ock, I use this kind of tea to lift my blood pressure when it drops too low during a fast.


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Wow. I had no idea that herbal tea could raise one's blood pressure. The things one learns on this Board can be quite valuable, for sure. :)

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26 Oct 2012 21:11 #13348 by whimsofthewinds
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One tea that I also find helpful if your just fasting and not water fasting is a roiboos based herbal tea, it usually is sweet in its self with no calories, it's especially good if it is mixed in with something like cinnamon, however cinnamon can have an effect on your glucose, I think by lowering it. So I'm not sure how someone would fare on that but for me its not noticeable.

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27 Oct 2012 20:58 #13354 by Shant
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Oh, I love roiboos! You don't even need to sweeten it as it's naturally sweet itself. I drink it on eat days, hooked up. My absolute favourite.

Ock: most of herbal teas contain liquorice as it gives them the sweet taste. check out the ingredients :).

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28 Oct 2012 03:35 - 28 Oct 2012 03:41 #13361 by Ockeghem
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Shant wrote: Ock: most of herbal teas contain liquorice as it gives them the sweet taste. check out the ingredients :).


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Thanks. Yes, I always check the ingredients of everything I ingest. The herbal teas I drink (Celestial Seasonings) do not contain any licorice at all.

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28 Oct 2012 18:40 #13366 by Shant
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Which one do you drink? The one for good night sleep from Celestial Seasonings is with liquorice. I never had it though.

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28 Oct 2012 22:05 #13374 by Ockeghem
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Shant wrote: Which one do you drink? The one for good night sleep from Celestial Seasonings is with liquorice. I never had it though.


I drink Wild Berry Zinger, and a few others. But I'll have to look for some with licorice in them as I like the taste of that very much. :)

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