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Use of bentonite, flax and psyllium to cleanse

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09 Apr 2013 16:43 #16051 by Shawn
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What is the opinion out there on doing a colon cleanse by mixing bentonite clay, psyllium husk and a bit of flax seed with juice once a day and (gulping) it down? I have done this before with very good results and it eliminates the need for enemas - or can be done with enemas also.

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09 Apr 2013 19:16 - 09 Apr 2013 19:20 #16059 by david
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Hi Shawn,

From a purely Natural Hygienic perspective most NH doctors are opposed to colonics and the reasons they give are that the body is designed to process food and liquids in one direction and that is downwards rather than upwards. But you are talking about a top down colonic which is similar to a yogic technique drinking warm salty water and then performing a series of exercises. The issue I have with clay is that unless you have had the batch that you are using lab tested it may contain traces of heavy metals and I wouldn't want to introduce them into my body at any cost. You simply can't go by what is on the label as the the controls are not stringent enough. I speak from experience. However I have had positive experiences with psyllium and soaked chia seeds taken separately.

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09 Apr 2013 21:28 #16061 by MarcM
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I've used 1 dose for 2 days of epson salts- pulls moister out of you to flush it from your digestive sytstem. Directions are on most packeage on how to use it as a laxative- for me - less is more - the body knows how to cleanse itself.

I do use psylliom husk regularly when eating a low fiber meal.

Same concerns on the clay David noted.

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10 Apr 2013 03:02 #16066 by TheFastDoctor
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Brilliant summary David! Bear in mind these products are made to be sold. Only "Mother Nature" has no ulterior motives.

Humans are unique in the animal kingdom in our pre-occupation with what comes OUT of the intestine. Most animals ignore that to a large extent. And nowhere in Nature does anything go "upstream" into the intestine. It is a poliarized system that moves one way. Enemas should really be reserved for real disease conditions, such as faecal impaction, atonic intestines (for example in paraplegics or quadruplegics) and never be used routinely.

Psillium is not a good fiber, but less of an evil than other substances. The best fiber is what occurs naturally in our diet: Fruit and vegetables.

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10 Apr 2013 12:22 #16068 by david
david replied the topic: Use of bentonite, flax and psyllium to cleanse
Thank you Doctor it would be great if you could qualify why Psillium is not a good fibre in your understanding? Is it because it is an insoluble fibre?

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10 Apr 2013 13:31 - 10 Apr 2013 13:36 #16069 by TheFastDoctor
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It's not that psillium is a bad fibre, dear David, but it can be rather irritant:

www.drugs.com/sfx/psyllium-side-effects.html

"...hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat.

Stop using psyllium and call your doctor at once if you have a serious side effect such as:

choking or trouble swallowing;
severe stomach pain, cramping, nausea or vomiting;
constipation that lasts longer than 7 days;
rectal bleeding; or
itchy skin rash.
Less serious side effects of psyllium may include:
bloating or minor change in your bowel habits.


altmedicine.about.com/od/completeazindex/a/psyllium.htm

"... it may cause obstruct the colon and cause constipation."

www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingre...ame=BLOND%20PSYLLIUM

"Some patients can have severe hypersensitivity reactions to blond psyllium."

and most comprehensively

www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/mn26.php

"Psyllium causes inflammation of the gastrointestinal tract. It gets into the cells and activates it so that the body produces an immunological radical reaction which causes astronomical titers (antibodies).

People get sensitized to psyllium. Even people who just handle it (like nurses and doctors) get a violent immunological reaction. If too many antibodies are produced, it can affect the kidney glomuerial filtering unit. It produces hormonal effects because hormones are flushed out. The reason it causes water to be brought into the gut is because the body is trying to inactivate the material."

Personally, I prefer to stay safe.

André

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10 Apr 2013 17:20 #16079 by Shawn
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Hi everyone, thanks for the comments. I agree on the bentonite and have not used any lately due to that, but have wondered about it. I do find a mixture of ground flax and psyllium gets my system going - never have experienced any of the side effects mentioned above

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11 Apr 2013 06:30 #16089 by TheFastDoctor
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Indeed Shawn some people tolerate things others don't. I for one prefer to stick to the most natural, unprocessed, fresh substances like what our ancestors likely ate.

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12 Apr 2013 14:52 #16116 by Shawn
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Again, I am not really sure what you are recommending.

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12 Apr 2013 17:35 #16119 by TheFastDoctor
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Dear Shawn, I recommend that we avoid anything that was processed, mixed, formulated or designed to be sold. Mother Nature's foods in their original state is likely best.

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13 Apr 2013 13:31 #16121 by Shawn
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I hear what you are saying, and I would agree if we were living hundreds of years ago when our food was in a more natural state. I own an organic farm and know that it is extremely difficult to get anything to put in our body that is "natural". It is even difficult to find seeds that are not hybrid or contaminated. If one achieves that, then the water that goes into the plant is the next concern. Again, impossible to find pure water that does not have some kind of trace of human interference. Then next is the contaminates that come with the weather and the breeze. So, just like your argument about things made in factories....humans have interfered and contaminated everything to some degree.

Our bodies have toxins and exposures that our ancestors did not have to deal with. I personally have lived in very contaminated cities (Dhaka and Cairo). Thus it make sense to me to assist my body in detoxing at times. I don't think our bodies have a natural defense against the onslaught of issues it has to deal with in our modern world.

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13 Apr 2013 14:49 #16125 by TheFastDoctor
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True, Shawn. But the simple fact still holds: You don't get things out by putting things in. The more toxins we are exposed to, the more important it becomes not to add to the load. Fasting trumps substances.

Concerning genetics within our food: Our ancestors have also manipulated the genetic composition of their animals (selective breeding) and crops (seed selection).. it may have taken longer but still resulted in huge grass seeds (like wheat) and fast growing animals..

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