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19 Feb 2009 20:47 #2734 by TheFastDoctor
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About 30 years ago my patients also complained about headaches during a fast. Then over a few years we developed the 5-step elimination cycle and have barely seen a headache since. Some caffeine addicts still gets them, and we have good success with oxygen therapy. Then on the odd occasion when people have a reason to clean the gut, we do it from top to bottom, not "against the traffic", with good results.

I must be honest with you, I cannot imagine how stretching the rectum would prevent a headache.. but accept your word for it. It would be interesting, however, to see if this experience is repeatable or perhaps just a once off coincidence.

Andree

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20 Feb 2009 16:36 #2754 by Julia
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i don't have much caffeine so it cannot be that. Would be interested in trying it again and will let you know. It is just that I normally have colonics at the start of the fast and feel really uplifted (except for day 3) and have virtually no side effects, so I am not used to this.
I am also used to the stool reinstating as soon as I start any solids and this time it was a bit different.

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18 Apr 2009 07:43 #3367 by Mordenkainen
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It seems humans are the only animals with an anal fixation, interfering with the function of this very important organ.


In Barcelona (Spain) an article appeared in a journal "The Medicine of the Month:" about enemas. It shows the delightful print of the amazing bird, the ibis, giving itself a water enema!

Source: findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_6818/is_2_22/ai_n28456421/

The Fast Doctor wrote:


And it is still just so simple: How on earth can you get something OUT by putting something IN? Having held living colon in one's hands (during surgery) does indeed make these claims sound rather ridiculous.

André

The only reasons I would ever introduce fluid through the anus is to relieve an obstruction or impaction. Perhaps to prepare for surgery or colonoscopy if the correct flush (by mouth) did not work. But I will never expose my body to an enema or "colonic" if I can avoid it.


So, you just contradicted yourself in the same thread, Doc. If it's obstructed or impacted and you're using fluid up there to help get it out.

First it's, "It's ridiculous to think you can get things out by putting things in!"

Then a few posts later, "Oh, yeah, if I had constipation THEN I would put something in me to get it out"

And I'm sure you know this, but if you eat properly you never need worry about blockage or constipation :)

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20 Apr 2009 12:10 #3376 by TheFastDoctor
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If you read the context, dear Mordenkainen, there's no contradiction. You need to cleanse the colon, yes, but NOT from the BOTTOM UJPWARDS, no.

Sure if there's a mechanical obstruction I will pass a scope from the bottom. But an obstruction is a dire surgical emergency, something you will not survive for more than a handful of hours if left alone. So that does not ever occur in more than a very tiny fraction of the population.

I fully agree that if you eat correctly (and fast correctly and regularly) you will likely be safeguarded from obstructions and most malfunctions. That is one reason why I detest these practices of inserting tubes and liquids through the anus in people not needing aggressive srugical intervention.

André

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22 Apr 2009 13:51 #3390 by Mordenkainen
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The Fast Doctor wrote:

If you read the context, dear Mordenkainen, there's no contradiction. You need to cleanse the colon, yes, but NOT from the BOTTOM UJPWARDS, no.

Sure if there's a mechanical obstruction I will pass a scope from the bottom. But an obstruction is a dire surgical emergency, something you will not survive for more than a handful of hours if left alone. So that does not ever occur in more than a very tiny fraction of the population.

I fully agree that if you eat correctly (and fast correctly and regularly) you will likely be safeguarded from obstructions and most malfunctions. That is one reason why I detest these practices of inserting tubes and liquids through the anus in people not needing aggressive srugical intervention.

André


Now I have to read for context?! Good grief, this internets thing is getting difficult :).

Thanks for the response!

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15 Jun 2009 07:27 #3765 by Dedov
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It's an interesting conversation about the benefits of taking enema! As far as I know, there are two popular water fasting schools - the American and the Russian, and the only difference between them is the implementation of the enema during the process of fasting. The Russian(Urii Sergeevich Nikolaev) advocates the enema in the same way Andre denies it - giving scientific proofs to his own words. He (Nikolaev) says that taking enema during a seven day water fast gives you the benefits of a 10 day fast without enema. And he(Nikolaev) is also MD Professor in the University of Medicine in former USSR. Actually, taking(or not) enemas during the fast is the only difference between the two water fasting schools(Russian & American). My opinion on this matter is based on experience and not on knowledge, so I can't participate disputes. I have tried water fasting both with and without enemas and I feel better, when I DO TAKE ENEMAS. The clean colon gives me relief of pain in my joints and I feel better. This needs an explanation, unfortunately I am not theoretically prepared to give it, so let someone else do it! Thank you guys!
Dedov.

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15 Jun 2009 11:26 #3766 by TheFastDoctor
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If an enema is given in the very lowest part of the colon alone (That is, just the rectum), many of my misgivings about it disappears. I have a particular problem with high enemas and "colonics" however.

But remember that the rectum is only a storage organ, NOT an elimination organ.. Actually, some minerals are absorbed INTO the body from the rectum's content. What passes from the intestine is food residue and colonic bacteria, not real metabolic toxins.

Elimination is done primarily in the kidneys, but the sweat glands can do a lot also. When fasting, the kidneys become less important as they cannot process fat soluble chemicals and while fasting the metabolism is largely fat based. That is why we focus so much on the sweat treatments.

The liver is of course also an important elimination organ during the fast, but it excretes the bile into the UPPER part of the intestine (Duodenum) so no amount of enema or colonic irrigation can get to it. That's one reason why I prefer the oral Macroglycol cleanse IF any cleansing needs be done.. which in my experience is not often. The body is well equipped to deal with most of the toxins in a more natural way.

André

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02 Feb 2011 10:04 - 02 Feb 2011 10:05 #5787 by Zilly
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I went for my first colonoscopy last spring, and obviously had to fast for 3 days prior (thats what got me started on fasting, I felt great afterwards, minus the procedure itself lol)(have diverticuli).
I was instructed to use pico salax. I handled it easily with no discomfort. So my question is, would it be ok to use pico salax on the 3rd day of a water fast, since it is non Rx? Perhaps as often as say 3 times per year? 2?
Thank you, Im new :)

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04 Feb 2011 13:11 #5795 by david
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Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people.

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04 Feb 2011 22:36 #5797 by Zilly
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No, I'll do that now. Thanks David :)

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03 Mar 2011 08:17 #6014 by FastHealing
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I have not read all the posts on this thread so please do not think I am responding to anyone's particular question.

All I can say is that I did a 10 day fast one time and it was mixed with colonics and I felt like a million dollars when everything was finished and especially after I started eating again. LOL

But what I am trying to say is I had a good experience combining colonics with fasting.

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04 Mar 2011 00:52 #6022 by TheFastDoctor
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I respect your observation, dear FastHealing, but will forever believe that the benefits you gathered was primarily from the fast, perhaps even in spite of, rather than becasue of, the "colonics". You might have felt even better without them.

André

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