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16 Oct 2014 10:31 #23744 by loquat1
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@ David - With apologies for going OT this time, tho this does arise from your earlier post. Did you read the comments section in that link given by Dr Bush? Very %ing about CS (colloidal silver). I've come across this before, but largely dismissed it as a potential scam.

It's just possible this 'anonymous doc' is little more than a provocateur using some well-aimed black ops disinformation against the alternative community. But if that's the case, the only remaining mystery is why he would advocate a protocol that is possibly just as effective as CS?

It makes no sense at all, but at the very least, I think that CS is definitely worthy of further investigation/research. When I have the time, I intend doing some for myself.

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16 Oct 2014 12:37 #23745 by david
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@loquat I should have been a bit more discerning with my previous post. There were zero undertones or insinuations that you were being OTT or irresponsible etc by being vociferous on medical conspiracies. What I actually meant was in the larger scheme of things and in a very general sense however tempting it is to veer down the conspiracy rabbit hole (speaking of my own sentiment) it is wiser and all round better for us to avoid this temptation (not on this thread but on the site) as it is all so dark and murky and what we really want is to reinforce all the positives of water fasting and at times juice feasting and calorie restrictions for promoting optimal health.

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16 Oct 2014 17:45 #23749 by happydays
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David - thank you for the vitamin c source. I was wondering where to find some.
Loquat - Books you kindly suggested arrived from Amazon, at last. Have just finished reading...Never fear cancer again by R Francis. Quite an amount of it does resonate with me. I love the idea that cancer is a process that can be switched on or off and that he considers it to be a systemic disease - a whole body problem. He sees cancer as a process, not a thing and feels that abnormal metabolism sets the stage for cancer throughout the body. I totally agree with the good doctor that over nutrition is a causative factor. I am building up heating in the infrared sauna and I already utilise fasting, both of which he recommends, but my one area of concern is his suggested use of supplementation of vitamins and minerals. Looks to be fairly heavy dosage. His argument is the poorer growing soils providing less nutrition than in the past. I currently take no supplementation and feel an aversion to starting. But I am undecided. I intend to experiment with a vitamin c flush - on an eating day of course! He mentions rebounding rather interestingly. I have no intention of using coffee enemas :ohmy: I am gradually swapping over to my vegan diet and veering away from toxic substances in my immediate environment. It's all pure air and water now! And the water is put in a glass bottle instead of a plastic one!!

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16 Oct 2014 18:49 #23751 by loquat1
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@ happydays - Glad to hear that you're finding at least some of Never Fear... useful. I agree that it is not necessary to accept all of his advice in order to benefit from ........errr - his advice. You have enough options at your disposal to allow you the luxury of being choosy. Above all, you have fasting, which is quite possibly the most powerful healing protocol of the lot.

I also agree - I would lay off the vitamins & supplements as well, unless you are following a specific healing protocol, which I don't think Francis covers in any systematic way. His book is more like a general maintenance manual rather than prescriptive, whereas Outsmart.. is prescriptive. That's why I recommended these two books - they complement each other quite well.

In the end though, you must do your own research until you find out what works best for you, and I'm sure we all wish you the very best in that enterprise, conspiracy theories notwithstanding.

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19 Oct 2014 13:45 #23768 by david
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Happydays you are most welcome.

@loquat okay moved the off topic posts to chitchat.

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22 Oct 2014 22:59 - 22 Oct 2014 23:01 #23813 by loquat1
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@ happydays - If you can find the time, this is well worth watching:



It chronicles the suppression of laetrile as an effective anti-cancer remedy. I think Pierce also has a chapter on laetrile if I'm not mistaken.

EDIT - It's only free to view for a couple of days, so if you wanna see it, you'll need to do so soon.
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29 Oct 2014 18:48 #23881 by happydays
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Thank you for this Loq. I am already incorporating apricot seeds into my routine after reading "World without cancer" by G E Griffin. Fasting, my infrared sauna and the apricot seeds form my main defence! I have a few challenges. Comments are most welcome. I am fasting 3 days per week (including the nights and part of the next day) and wonder how this affects the ingestion of the seeds ??? At the moment I am only taking a few but once I build it up I have concerns about taking none one day and then flooding myself with them :unsure: Also - the fasting - any ideas about the best time to slot in the sauna? I am currently building up the heat and do half an hour back and half an hour front per session . This is done on the evening of the fasting day ie 3 sessions per week.

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29 Oct 2014 19:15 #23882 by happydays
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Apologies, fellow fasters but I have another question for discussion. I am fasting 3 days per week with eating in between ie a sort of ADF during weekdays. Would I be doing more good to run the three days together??? Bear in mind that the cancer is currently dormant. I am receiving no medical treatment and am well. The doctors call it "watch and wait" but the patients call it "watch and worry" :)
As an aside, Ock mentioned rebounding for lymphatic drainage. It is mentioned in most of the books and I would definitely be bouncing on a rebounder several times per day if I did not have a neck injury. ;)

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30 Oct 2014 00:07 #23886 by loquat1
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Hello again chuck. Hmm, now let me see........

Apricot seeds - I know I'm not gonna make many friends here, but even if you are fasting, I wouldn't worry too much about the purist definitions in your circumstances. I would continue with the laetrile during fast days. True, you will be making calls on your digestive system, but the energy expended will be nominal yet likely still exceed the calorific value of the kernels.

As for 'flooding yourself', hopefully that doesn't mean taking more than 2-3 kernels at normal meal times (ie 6-9 per day) on an empty stomach, but you should start off with 1 kernel per meal time, and build up gradually. Whilst fasting, I would also recommend Essiac Tea, another powerful detox aid. Making it is a bit of a chore, but you can buy the ready-made version if you prefer to avoid the hassle.

Sauna - That's ok, but I think you would benefit even more from this if you squeezed in a morning session as well - on the same premise as the 5-step detox cycle. Make sure it doesn't cover any part of your head tho. My mum used to say 'warm feet, cool head'. How right she was.

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30 Oct 2014 00:32 #23890 by loquat1
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Rebounding also featured in one of the Ty's videos (The Truth About Cancer - The Search for Cures). Forget which episode, but as explained by one of the MD's he interviewed, it makes perfect sense. Unlike the circulatory system, the lymph system relies on gravity and muscular pressure to circulate its fluid. Rebounding enhances both, so improving immunity. Now who woudda thunk it?
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31 Oct 2014 12:59 #23896 by TheFastDoctor
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Dear HappyDays, ADF is indeed quite effective but I would remain "purist" about this, bearing in mind:
1. Real fasting starts at ketosis, typically 24 hours or so after the last meal.
2. Any TASTE during the fast will "inform" your brain that you are eating, and may result in the normal cells keeping on dividing.
3. Exercise is a natural part of fasting: Our ancestors likely exercised MORE during famine (fasting) because they needed to find (and often kill!) food.
4. ANY kind of nutrient (even if you smuggle it past your taste buds) during the fast would be feeding the cancer cells as they would still be actively dividing.
5. Once you start compromising the definition of fasting, the boundaries become blurred and that would burden your mind with unnecessary stress of making decisions as to where you draw the line.
Thus, to be purist, I would refrain from all and every kind of organic plant or animal substance for the duration of a fast.

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16 Nov 2014 17:53 #24028 by loquat1
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Happy - Have you read T. Harter Pierce yet? Whatdya think?

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23 Nov 2014 10:25 #24099 by loquat1
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The evidence in favour of laetrile continues to mount:

www.change.org/p/requesting-that-sloan-k...etition_update_email

Maybe one day the other known alternative cancer protocols will get similar attention from these German researchers. Well, one can only hope, but by rights Memorial Sloan-Kettering management should be quaking in their boots just about now.

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24 Nov 2014 02:24 - 25 Nov 2014 09:00 #24107 by TheFastDoctor
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25 Nov 2014 01:33 #24126 by loquat1
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All of which proves that getting to the bottom of this debate presents an almost intractable problem to the general public. If so-called experts are at daggers drawn over the merits of this protocol, what chance does john doe have, unless he has a degree in biochemistry? He has to jump thru hoops to separate the wheat from the chaff.

I believe I know where most of that chaff is to be found, so for the time being at least, my nod still goes to the German researchers - not forgetting the august pioneers who preceded them. It can't be long before they settle this issue one way or another.

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25 Nov 2014 09:06 #24132 by TheFastDoctor
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EVERY chemical will have its followers, often created by crafty marketing. There is NO chemical - and definitely not the one called laetrile - that does not have negative effects. The ONLY intervention with universally positive effects remains fasting.

I for one will not allow chemicals like these into my precious body...

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25 Nov 2014 17:56 - 25 Nov 2014 18:10 #24138 by loquat1
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Actually Doc., I'm not a 'follower' of any chemical as such. I merely cite laetrile/amygdalin as one of many examples that have been successfully used in the treatment of cancer, but which will never be seriously investigated by Big Pharma as long as there are no foreseeable returns emanating from patentable versions of same.

I totally agree with you about fasting. Your problem tho might be to persuade a cancer sufferer who has never fasted to go down that route whilst still holding onto your job. I would dearly love to see you perform that little trick.

As for the alleged toxicity of amygdalin & its derivatives, mainstream disinformation is the last place I would look for truth on the subject. But quite aside from that, and acknowledging that two wrongs don't make a right, I have to wonder how non-toxic you regard such protocols as chemo & radiation?

In the entire history of mainstream oncology, how many patients do you imagine have been killed by these so-called 'treatments'? The testimony of serg. Rick Ship in the first 5 mins of this doc. :



must surely have been repeated at least 50 million times by now, yet all the mainstream can do to oppose amygdalin is to cite 16 highly suspect deaths over a period close to a century, every one of which has a perfectly rational explanation fully documented in the literature that does not involve amygdalin. Talk about double standards.

Having said all that, I would not wish to be responsible for you bursting a blood vessel, so if you wanna call it quits & agree to differ again, I'd be more than happy to oblige.

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25 Nov 2014 18:11 #24142 by david
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just to add a bit of grist to the mill. On the topic of every chemical having a toxic effect. I was quite surprised when Dr Thomas Levy declared emphatically that ascorbic acid has no negative side effects no matter the dose. He said that it is even safer than water.

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25 Nov 2014 19:03 #24143 by loquat1
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PS For the avoidance of doubt, I should add that I'm no apologist for Dr S Burzynski. Despite all the testimonials given in his support and his subsequent acquittal, I believe the jury is still out on his antineoplaston therapy. There are cheaper and more effective remedies out there.

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